Donna's shampoo and conditioner combo is epic and i really like the jessie's curly pudding! It didn't make my hair hard like a gel! I used Lobie leave in peptide mask (or Innersence) BEFORE the curly pudding to add extra moisture! (Lobie not listed) naturalhair 1. Detangler with Felicia Leatherwood brush 2. moisturizing shampoo. 3. Moisturizing conditioner 4. The tangle again with conditioner. 5. Hydrate hair with a leave in product like Innersence or Lobie 6. Curl cream/custard 7. You can add oil after this too LTKBeauty