These jeans are SOOOO GOOD! They fit perfect and I love the pleats in the from that kind of dress up the denim! The turtle felt good on my skin and wasn’t too thick at all! You can definitely layer on top of this! For reference I am 5’6” and 200lbs! -Top- size medium (universal thread) -Jeans- size 12 (universal thread) LTKFallSale LTKSaleAlert LTKMidsize