ordered my favorites loafers (shown in “classic nude leather” on the left) in kid’s sizing to compare. a size 4 Big Kid / Youth fits the same as a 5.5 Women’s. I almost never do kids shoes except for sneakers because the quality is almost always lower and the fit is usually odd. However several of you recommended these in kids, and They’re surprising similar in looks, with the kids having a rubber some while womens has a harder sole and I’m sure there’s other differences internally but I can’t really tell from a glance. Do note that I read a bunch of reviews that the kids shoe stretches out and gets wider and looser at the back. LTKshoecrush LTKFind LTKkids