I love the black pair so much that I bought them in white too. Same classic chino style and fit, same 10.75” rise, same 6” inseam. I’m still in my usual size 10. One thing I always look for in white shorts is how much the pockets show through, and these have minimal show-through, which is a win. I’m wearing this tee in a size small. It fits big. LTKOver40 LTKMidsize LTKSaleAlert